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I need pictures of two historical figures:
1. King John V of Portugal
2. Duke Wilhelm August of Saxe-EisenachI'm glad I could help you. It was my pleasure.
ScriptorResearch was thorough and solid, more than I expected.Johann Georg I of Saxe-Eisenach died in 1686, of course ... not in
1668. Please excuse the typo.
Regards,
ScriptorIn that case, I will do additional research. I will consult German
sources on the history of the Thuringian principalities and on J. S.
Bach. So far, I have not found anything online, so I will go to the
library tomorrow. If I find a portrait of Wilhelm August of
Saxe-Eisenach, I will scan it and make it available to you online.
Regards,
ScriptorDear bpaul,
Good news! I have found out what the problem was. I have searched and
found descriptions of the Bach incident. Actually, Johann Sebastian
Bach's princely patron, who had him "arrested" when Bach wanted to
leave for a better appointment at the court of Prince Leopold of
Anhalt-K then, was not Wilhelm August of Saxe-Eisenach at all. Rather,
it was Wilhelm Ernst of Saxe-Weimar. This is a historical fact.
Wilhelm Ernst of Saxe-Weimar was born on 19 October 1662 and died on
26 August 1728. From 1683, he was Duke of Saxe-Weimar together with
his brother Johann Ernst III. (1664-1707). After his brother died, he
shared rulership of the principality with his nephew Ernst August
(1688-1748).
The fact that in 1717 when Bach had those troubles with his patron
Wilhelm Ernst there was also the Duke's nephew Ernst August as
co-ruler may have caused some misunderstandings. And the complex
history of the Thuringian mini-principalities that constantly were
merged, divided and changed names certainly added to the confusion.
You can read the description of Bach's imprisonment on this website,
under the section "Restless Again":
http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~tas3/weimar2.html
(Northern Arizona University: J.S. Bach - Weimar II (1708-1717))
And here are two portraits of Bach's patron, Duke Wilhelm Ernst of Saxe-Weimar:
http://odur.let.rug.nl/Linguistics/diversen/bach/images/bosses/w-ernst.jpg
Source:
The J.S. Bach Home Page: Weimar II
http://odur.let.rug.nl/Linguistics/diversen/bach/weimar2.html
http://www.weimar-klassik.de/media/bilder/wilhelm_ernst.jpg
Source:
Stiftung Weimarer Klassik: Geschichte der Herzogin Anna Amalia Bibliothek
http://www.weimar-klassik.de/de/haab/geschichte.html
Additional sources used:
The Peerage: Wilhelm Ernst Herzog von Sachsen-Weimar
http://www.thepeerage.com/p359.htm#i7170
Regierende F rsten in Th ringen von der Mitte des 16. Jahrhunderts bis 1918
http://www.thueringen.de/de/lzt/thueringen/regfuerst/regern.htm
Hope this answers your question!
Regards,
ScriptorThe pictures of John V are great -- thank you!
The Wilhelm-August of Saxe-Eisenach I'm looking for lived to
adulthood. He was a Duke, and he was Bach's patron, employing him to
create and perform music for the ducal court. But after a while Bach
received a better offer from a Prince and resigned, an act the Duke
didn't take quietly; he had Bach arrested and imprisoned. Of course,
the "prison" was the Duke's home, and Bach was served sumptuous meals
on silver trays, and after about a month, the Duke gave up and let him
go. And that's really all I know about him.Dear bpaul,
Here are the results of my research, beginning with Duke Wilhelm August:
-- Duke Wilhelm August of Saxe-Eisenach --
I have done genealogical research and found out the following:
The history of they tiny Thuringian principalities is extremely
complex, to say the least. But there has obviously been only one
person named "August Wilhelm" who ever bore the title "Duke of
Saxe-Eisenach" (Herzog von Sachsen-Eisenach). This person was the son
of Duke Adolf Wilhelm of Saxe-Eisenach (1632-1668), of the House of
Wettin.
The bad news is that is is more than unlikely that a portrait of
August Wilhelm has ever been painted. Adolf Wilhelm and his wife,
Marie Elisabeth of Braunschweig-Wolfenb ttel (1638-1687) had 5 sons,
and 4 of them died before the age of one year. The fifth, Wilhelm
August, was born on 30 November 1668 - 8 days after his father Adolf
Wilhelm had died. That means, Wilhelm August was Duke of Saxe-Eisenach
from the moment he was born. Most likely, his mother or another
relative took regency over the principality.
But Duke Wilhelm August would never grow up to rule the country
himself. He died on 23 February 1671, at the age of only 2 years.
After his death, his late father's brother Johann Georg (1634-1668)
became Duke of Saxe-Eisenach. There never was another Duke named
Wilhelm August of Saxe-Eisenach. (Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach is not the same
as Saxe-Eisenach)
-- II. King John V of Portugal --
John V (or, in Portuguese, Jo o V) was born at Lisbon on 22 October
1689, proclaimed king on 1 January 1707, and died on 31 July 1750.
Here are some pictures of him:
http://www.reallisboa.pt/d_000/004/b_004.jpg
Source: Real Associa o de Lisboa - Jo o V
(http://www.reallisboa.pt/d_000/004/d_004.html)
http://faculty.wm.edu/kelane/latecol_folder/images/latecols16_jpg.jpg
Source: College of William and Mary - Website of Mr. Lane
(http://faculty.wm.edu/kelane/)
http://clientes.netvisao.pt/mjoseama/DJoaoV.jpg
Source: Manuel Amaral Web Size - D.Jo o V
(http://clientes.netvisao.pt/mjoseama/new_page_18.htm)
http://www.info-regenten.de/regent/regent-d/pictures/portugal-joao5.jpg
Source: Regenten der Welt - Portugal
(http://www.info-regenten.de/regent/regent-e/portugal.htm)
Sources:
The Peerage: Wilhelm August Herzog von Sachsen-Eisenach
http://www.thepeerage.com/p357.htm#i7130
Genealogy.eu: The House of Wettin 4
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin4.html
WorldHistory.com: John V of Portugal
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/J/John-V-of-Portugal.htm
Search terms used:
"duke wilhelm august"
://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=%22duke+wilhelm+august%22&btnG=Suche
"saxe eisenach" "wilhelm august"
://www.google.de/search?q=%22saxe+eisenach%22+%22wilhelm+august%22&ie=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google-Suche
"sachsen eisenach" "adolf wilhelm"
://www.google.de/search?q=%22sachsen+eisenach%22+%22adolf+wilhelm%22&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&filter=0
"sachsen eisenach" "wilhelm august"
://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=%22sachsen+eisenach%22+%22wilhelm+august%22&btnG=Suche
"johann georg" eisenach
://www.google.de/search?q=%22johann+georg%22+eisenach&ie=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google-Suche
"john v" joao
://www.google.de/search?q=%22john+v%22+joao&ie=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google-Suche
"john v" portugal
://www.google.de/search?q=%22john+v%22+portugal&ie=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google-Suche
"joao v"
http://images.google.de/images?q=%22joao+v%22&start=20&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&sa=N&imgsz=
"joao v"
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=img&cs=utf8&q=%22joao+v%22&o=0
Best regards,
ScriptorHello Bpaul
I have done some intensive searching for pictures of these people for
you. King John was tricky to track down but I eventually found him but
Wilhelm was more elusive.
Do you have any more information on him? Dates of birth/death? Who
was he married to? Any historical information surrounding him?
At the moment I can provide you with images of:
King John V of Portugal
His Highness Prince Wilhelm August Eduard (Edward) of
Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (I believe this may be the person you are looking
for...).
If any of this is of help I can write my research up as an answer for you.Ernst and not August? Weimar and not Eisenach? Then a number of web
pages have it wrong. But your sources look like reliable authorities
to me, so Wilhelm-Ernst it is.
I think I see where the problem lies. One of your sources, this page:
http://www.weimar-klassik.de/de/haab/geschichte.html
says his full name is Wilhelm Ernst, Herzog von Sachsen-Weimar-Eisenach.
Do you suppose they could have complicated it a little more if they'd
just tried harder?
Anyway, you did a bang-up job and you found my pictures for me.
Thanks for all your good work.#If you have any other info about this subject , Please add it free.# |
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